Doug Whitfield

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https://nu.federati.net/url/106366 -- most of what Facebook has done since they realized they were the problem has seemed suspect. This though, seems like a smart move to me

I would need them to know whom I trust for world news as well as local.

B. Ross Ashley at 2018-01-30T19:40:06Z

well, I just meant from a business standpoint reducing the paid posts didn't seem like a good move. It's easy enough to say that you don't want more posts like X though, in your scenario.

Doug Whitfield at 2018-01-30T20:06:50Z

"whom I trust" .. wouldn't that worsen the filter-bubble problem ?


when are people going to not look at everything they read *anywhere* as "truth"


anyway how can one define "world news" or "local news"? .. trying to block anything based on anyone's definitions of those would probably end up looking more like censorship to a lot of people.


the *real* fake news problem I saw was a lot of spoofy websites (a lot of which seemed to try to look somewhat like news sites btw) and strange browser behaviour from about 2015 onwards (mostly 2015-2016) . and the in-browser censorship aided by that stupidity of redirecting http to https on a lot of sites. (which btw only ever seemed to result in a lot of legit websites being blocked by the browser not the spoofy ones)


I even saw a browser completely ignore a valid dns response

(http went to the correct site as per dns but https went somewhere entirely different - an attack obviously using some kind of browser exploit perhaps even the browsers own upstream hooks?)


and also around the same time there was that organised mass trolling and fearmongering (on a massive scale) going on everywhere (and there was a lot of that on facebook and it looked like the trolls were abusing the ad-targeting data to target people with their own fears)

Don't expect me to believe that the spate of suicides around that time was unrelated.


until all that is explained and those responsible for all that abuse are held to account, don't expect me to have much trust in cartel web browsers, anything big and centralised claiming to be a "platform" or tls psuedo-security.


It makes me want to vomit when I see any such companies try to turn any of that pain suffered by so many as another excuse to blame ordinary users (most of whom are the victims of what I described above) for problems.




Michael at 2018-01-31T09:22:56Z

local seemed pretty obvious to me, but local can obviously have global implications. My local paper is The Star-Tribune (but we also have City Pages), but the Super Bowl is this week, and at the very least that's VERY big national news.

But, it's easy to step out from there. City becomes state/province which becomes national as far as boundaries of local.

Our educational system is shit, which is the real reason for all of the issues, but of course, the elites like it that way even if the pretend not to.

Doug Whitfield at 2018-01-31T12:46:25Z